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Julia: Hello everyone, and thank
you for joining us today for our

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webinar Getting Out of a Funk Tools
and Tips to Manage Depression.

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Maybe you've been feeling a little bit
disconnected from the people around you,

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or perhaps you've been having trouble
feeling motivated to get things done,

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or you're even just having an off week.

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You might not feel quite depressed,
but you've definitely felt better.

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It happens to the best of us
and with current circumstances

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it's completely normal.

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I know that's how I've been
feeling for the past few weeks.

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It's a common feeling that a lot of people
are having especially with everything

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that's been going on in the world.

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It's okay if you have felt feelings
of depression creep in or increase

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over the last few months, but the
great news is that there's a lot of

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tools that can help you feel better.

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Today we're gonna be sharing
with you different mechanisms

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and resources to address and
deal with symptoms of depression.

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We're also gonna talk about how
to recognize when you may need

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additional support and also
the value of self-compassion.

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One really exciting thing that we're doing
today is at the end of the webinar, we

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actually have clinicians who are gonna be
available to meet with you, one-on-one,

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to talk, listen, lend, support,
and offer more resources and tools.

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If at any time you're interested
in talking with somebody right

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after this webinar privately.

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Just message us and we'll
get you set up with that.

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Before we begin, I want to thank
our financial sponsors for this

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webinar, the Rotary Club of Golden.

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Thank you Rotary Club of Golden
for your commitment to mental

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health as well as to the community.

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I'm pleased to introduce today's
speaker, Melissa Weiler Cabral.

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Melissa is a licensed professional
counselor here at Jefferson Center.

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Before I hand the mic over to Melissa,
I do have a few housekeeping items

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to cover about the presentation.

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First, this webinar will be available
on demand after the live session,

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and we'll email that out to you along
with the additional resources, and

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we'll have a slide deck available.

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I would also encourage you to visit our
website at jcmh.org, where you'll find

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out more information about how to get
started if you're interested in talking

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with the therapist, as well as blog
posts and information about upcoming

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webinars on other mental health topics.

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Next, we'd love to hear from
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If you have a question for Melissa,
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We'll be answering questions at the
end of the webinar, but if we don't

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get to your question today, we'll
make sure we follow up afterwards.

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information about Jefferson Center.

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So now without any further ado,
melissa, I'll turn it over to you.

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Melissa: Thank you for coming today.

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Today we'll be talking
obviously about depression.

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We'll go over the symptoms of depression,
the difference between situational

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depression and clinical depression or
major depression and then some coping

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skills, things you can do for self care
and how you can help other people that

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may also be struggling with depression.

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Then I'm happy to answer
any questions at the end.

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To get started let's talk about a
working definition of depression.

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Depression is a very common, but
also serious mental illness that

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negatively impacts how you feel,
the way you think, and how you act.

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These are the main
criteria for depression.

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It's important to note that you do not
under any circumstances need all of these

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to receive a diagnosis of depression.

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I'll go over each of these a little bit
more in depth just to give you an idea

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of what to look for in yourself and to
others like family members, children,

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so you can help recognize the signs.

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The first is depressed mood, but
that doesn't just mean feeling

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down and sad and in the dumps,
it can also include emptiness.

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A lot of clients I work with describe it
as feeling blank or empty or just blah.

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It can also encompass irritability
and anger, and it's important to note

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that in children and adolescents,
irritability and anger is a more

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predominant affect presentation
rather than sadness or tearfulness

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that adults might present with.

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The next is loss of interest
or also known as anhedonia.

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The clinical term is anhedonia.

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This is a very marked diminished
interest or pleasure in all

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or almost all activities.

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For kids it might be a kid who
is really into soccer and loved

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going to practice and loved his
teammates, might not really want to

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go to practice anymore and soccer's
stupid and I just want to stay home.

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For an adult that can look like
you use to go for a walk every

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Friday morning with some friends.

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Then that just doesn't really sound good
to you anymore or, family gatherings.

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You might avoid some of those
because it's just stressful and

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you don't want to deal with it.

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It's a loss of enjoyment.

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A lot of people describe it too, as not
being able to feel positive emotions.

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You feel muted almost.

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So if something good does happen
in your life, instead of feeling

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this huge, like yay euphoric kind
of happiness, it's more like, oh,

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that was neat and it's very subdued.

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The next is weight loss or
significant changes in appetite.

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Changes in appetite can
be over or undereating.

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We also describe it sometimes
as emotional eating.

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Undereating and weight loss in order
for that to be considered clinically

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significant would be losing about 5% of
your body weight in one month without

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trying, and that's another key factor
is you're trying to eat healthier and

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be more active and you lose weight.

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That's not clinically significant.

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Whats clinically significant is
when you're not eating and you're

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losing weight without trying.

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A lot of times people will say they
just don't feel hungry and they

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have to force themselves to eat.

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Sometimes the energy of getting up
to go make something to eat seems

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so daunting and overwhelming you
just can't bring yourself to do it.

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With the overeating, you grab what's
readily available and you might just

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throw yourself into your couch and stay
there for the next six hours and eat

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everything that you brought with you.

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The next one, sleep problems.

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Having insomnia or hyper
insomnia nearly every day.

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Often sleep issues are the presenting
complaint when people first seek

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treatment and you might not even know
you are experiencing depression yet,

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but your sleep is off and you know
that, so you go to your doctor and maybe

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you're talking about your sleep changes.

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That's usually the one symptom
that starts alerting people to

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the fact that something's off.

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You're not like you normally are.

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Your sleep disturbance could
take the form of difficulty

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sleeping or excessively sleeping.

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So the couple of types of insomnia
that are present are middle insomnia,

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terminal insomnia, and initial insomnia.

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Middle insomnia is the most prevalent one.

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That is where you wake up during
the middle of the night and you

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have difficulty going back to sleep.

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The next is initial insomnia, which is
difficulty falling asleep in the first

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place, but then you can stay asleep
generally for the rest of the night.

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Then the third one terminal
insomnia is waking too early

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and not going back to sleep.

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So maybe you have to get up at 7:00
AM but at 4:30 you're wide awake

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and you just can't go back to sleep.

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Sleep issues are really important
because they impact a lot of

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different areas of your life.

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I always talk with clients about how sleep
seems to be like the center or the root

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of a lot of different depressive symptoms.

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If you're not sleeping well,
you're probably more susceptible

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to irritability, feeling tearful.

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I know when I haven't gotten
a good night's sleep, I'm

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more on edge about things.

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I'm more easily upset and if you're
not sleeping well for days or weeks

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on end, that starts to compound.

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Fatigue is the significant loss of
energy and it's not just feeling sleepy.

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It's a feeling of exhaustion
that follows minimal tasks.

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Just getting up in the morning and
getting dressed drains your whole level

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of energy, you feel physically exhausted.

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People often describe this fatigue
as like feeling like there are

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weights in their feet or their
arms, their limbs feel heavy.

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It feels like every effort they make is
a herculean effort and it's exhausting.

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Psychomotor changes.

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This one is not that common.

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It's one of the more
rare depressive symptoms.

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It's also one of the few symptoms or
the only symptom that has to be observed

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by somebody other than yourself.

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It can't be your subjective
observation that you are

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talking or moving more slowly.

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Somebody has to comment to you on it and
notice that your psychomotor activity is

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either slower or more active than usual.

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I always describe psychomotor changes
as like Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh,

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how he always just like slowly moves
along and he talks really slowly

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versus like Tigger, who's like bouncing
all over the place, off the wall.

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I always use those to describe going
from a normal level of psychomotor

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functioning to either bouncing off the
walls or moving like Eeyore, and that's

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what psychomotor changes is referring to.

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A lot of times people with depression
feel like they're moving or talking

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more slowly, but it's not presenting
that way to other people and that's

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why you need another person to
make the observation that yes, you

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are talking or moving more slowly.

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The next is a big one.

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It's worthlessness.

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So it's worthlessness or excessive and
inappropriate guilt nearly every day.

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I guess length criteria depends on whether
it's situational or clinical depression,

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and we'll get into that in a second.

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Worthlessness and excessive feelings of
guilt happen when people misinterpret

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neutral or trivial day-to-day events
and take them as a personal defect.

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They exaggerate the event happening
or the severity of the event because

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it's a character flaw with them.

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Let's say you forgot to hold the door open
for somebody walking into the store, and

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you might think I'm a terrible person now.

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That person hates me.

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I probably ruined their day because I
didn't think about them and it's this

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catastrophizing spiraling thought process
that's really unhealthy and it's not true.

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It's irrational, right?

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That person probably
didn't even think about it.

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You just engage in, how I like
to describe it as, self bullying.

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You say things to yourself that you
would never say to another person,

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and if you heard another person saying
those things you would tell them to stop

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because it's not true and it's mean.

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So why do we say them to ourselves?

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Depression is often encompassed
by that feeling of worthlessness

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and a lot of times people with
depression blame themselves for

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having depression in the first place,
which again, is out of their control.

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That one is a big one that then
leads into suicidal ideation,

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which we'll get to in a second.

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The next one is difficulty
concentrating or having problems

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making just typical daily decisions.

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Indecisiveness.

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A lot of times you might feel like you're
an airplane in a really cloudy sky where

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you can't really see out the window.

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Things are just a little hazy.

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And that's how people tend to describe
the difficulty with concentration.

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That is associated with depression.

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Also, people have issues
with short term memory.

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It feels almost like you hear information.

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But it doesn't sink in.

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It doesn't sit in your brain
long enough to process.

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It's literally like that in one ear out
the other and you might have to hear

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something or read something several
times before it starts to sink in and

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you commit it to short-term memory.

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A lot of times people are worried
that there's something more serious

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going on for them because of this
and are often relieved to find out

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that difficulty concentrating is a
pretty common symptom of depression.

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I will say for elderly persons that
can sometimes be indicative of dementia

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or Alzheimer's and for people in
that category, I always recommend

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that they do get evaluated by their
medical doctor just to rule out any

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underlying medical issues like that.

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Because 65 and older is the age, we start
to see some of that cognitive decline.

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The last is suicidal ideation.

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This includes recurrent thoughts of death.

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Recurrent suicidal ideation
without a specific plan.

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It can include a suicide attempt
or a specific plan for suicide.

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This is the only symptom of depression
that you do not need to experience

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daily in order for it to meet criteria.

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All the other symptoms you have
to experience pretty regularly.

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Suicidal ideation is concerning
enough to where if you even have it

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just once or twice that's a pretty
big signifier that you're suffering

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from some kind of depression.

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Again, everything except suicidal
ideation needs to be present

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for the most part every day.

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Moving on to situational depression.

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All of the aforementioned symptoms
are necessary for situational

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and major depressive diagnoses.

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The difference between them
is time of onset, length of

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onset, and severity of impact.

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Situational depression, this is short
term stress related type of depression.

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It develops after you experience a
stressful event or series of events.

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It's considered a type of adjustment
disorder and the symptoms cannot be

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caused by another mental health disorder
or part of the grieving process.

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Grief is not considered a mental illness.

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It's a unfortunate and natural
part of the human experience.

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It's treated differently
than regular depression.

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Symptoms of situational depressions
have to start within three months

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of the stressful event, and they
last no longer than six months after

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the end of the stressful event.

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That is the main criteria to
get an adjustment disorder for

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depression or situational depression.

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It's time limited.

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What causes situational depression?

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A lot of things.

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Relationship or marital problems
such as fighting or divorce,

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negative financial situations,
social issues at school or at work.

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Learning of serious health
issues, and COVID-19.

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That's a big one I think
for everyone right now.

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Since this all started the increase
in people I'm seeing who are coming

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in saying I've never had depression
before, but now since losing my job,

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having to stay home, my kids being home
all the time, my husband and I being

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within five feet of each other for 24/7.

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We're seeing an increase in situational
depression coming in for treatment.

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A lot of people too are experiencing
depression because maybe they didn't

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lose their job, but people they
care about did, and they're feeling

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remorseful and guilty about that.

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That they're in a better situation than
somebody they care about and they're

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guilting them themselves about it.

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I think a lot of people
might be feeling that way.

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I know myself, I'm a
pretty empathic person.

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That's why I work here and help people.

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And it really can impact me and affect
my emotions when I think about all the

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things that are going on in the world and
all the people who are suffering for due

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to this whole pandemic and the unclear
future that we're all moving towards

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is anxiety provoking and stressful.

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That's a really, really healthy
and normal response to everything

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that's going on right now.

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And for people who have never experienced
any kind of depression, they're

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feeling really confused and scared
and they're coming in for treatment.

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What's important to note
about situational depression.

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We talked about the time length of it.

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It has to onset within the first three
months of the event and it subsides within

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six months after the end of the event.

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If left untreated situational
depression can lead to major

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depression and clinical depression.

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The main difference between the two is
that with situational depression, there

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is an identifiable stressor or trigger.

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Whereas with major depression,
people don't know why they're

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feeling the way they do.

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With situational depression, we'll see
it a lot, I see it a lot in teenagers

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with like a fallout of a friend group.

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There's those social issues at
school or they didn't get it

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on the sports team they wanted.

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For adults going through a
divorce and having to worry about

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finances and custody, those are
all situational stressors that

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people initially come in for.

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Again, those can grow into major
depression if left untreated or ignored.

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Okay, so major depression.

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7% of all US adults have experienced
at least one major depressive

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episode in their lifetime.

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Its highest among adults, aged 18 to
25 and is higher in women versus men.

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The prevalence of major depressive
episodes is highest among multiracial

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adults and 59% of people with
depression also have anxiety.

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Anxiety is important to note here
because it is what is considered

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comorbid with depression, meaning that
they are often diagnosed together.

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It can often be a case of the
chicken or the egg one kind of can

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lead to the other and vice versa.

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People who are experiencing both
depression and anxiety will describe

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it sometimes as one being more
prevalent than the other one day.

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One day anxiety is king, and the next it's
depression and they feed off each other.

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The symptomology is really similar
with the criteria for anxiety being

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excessive worry and overthinking.

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You catastrophize all the time.

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You overthink everything.

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You think.

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Worst case scenario a lot.

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You might have a plan for every
possible scenario that could happen

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in any given situation because
you sit there and overthink it.

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That type of worry exhausts you.

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It causes fatigue, and then you
feel you can start engaging in some

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of that negative self-talk that's
characteristic of depression,

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that worthlessness, and then the
worthlessness leads to some suicidal

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ideation, and then you spiral into it.

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They're very connected.

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Sometimes one is just
worse than the other.

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Clinical depression is more severe
than just situational depression.

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It's brought on without reason.

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This is oftentimes the most frustrating
thing I hear from clients is they're

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always looking for a reason for why
they're feeling the way they are.

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There has to be a reason and there
isn't that is often really hard

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for people to accept that you
just have this, it just happens.

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It's not your fault.

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People who are not as well educated
about depression might make these people

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feel guilty about their depression.

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Why can't you just snap out of it?

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There's a really negative stigma
around it, and it's hard for

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people with depression to break
out of that thought pattern.

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Especially if they're living with or
surrounded by people who have the belief

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that depression is fake or it's not
real, or mental illnesses aren't real.

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It's very real and it's brought on
without reason, and it's no one's fault.

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It's not the client's fault,
it's not anyone's fault.

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It's just there.

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It's like some physical ailments.

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They just happen and they suck.

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But it's not your fault.

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It's not anyone else's fault.

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It's also important to keep in mind and
to keep in perspective that not everyone

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who is depressed experiences every symptom
and not everyone who has similar symptoms

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experience those symptoms the same.

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Sometimes a lot of well-meaning people
will say things like, oh, when I was

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depressed I just did this, and that's
not going to work for the other person.

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You can experience each of those
depressive symptoms very differently than

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somebody in your same family, your best
friend, the stranger down the street.

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You can all struggle with issues with
sleep, but experience those differently

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and they can impact you differently.

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They can have different effects
on your life differently.

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Sometimes this mindset or attitude
that, oh, we both have depression, so

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we must experience it the same way can
often be invalidating to each other by

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making the assumption that we experience
things the same way that they do.

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Everyone experiences
depression differently.

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Some people might have only few
symptoms, while others may experience

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many, but you can experience
those symptoms with different

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severity and different intensity.

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Just keep that in mind when talking
to yourself or with someone else

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experiencing depression that it's
not the same as everyone else.

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Maybe just because your friend got
over it really well and you struggle

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more with it, it doesn't mean
there's something wrong with you.

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You just experience it differently.

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People with only a few symptoms
but are experiencing distress

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from it can also benefit from
treatment for mild depression.

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Treatment isn't just for
people with really moderate

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or really severe depression.

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Treatment can be beneficial to
everyone regardless of where

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you are in this severity scale.

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There are quite a few risk
factors that increase a person's

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predisposition to experience depression.

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A risk factor is a characteristic
at the biological, psychological

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family, community, or cultural level
that are associated with higher

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likelihoods of negative outcomes.

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The first is biochemistry.

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This one we can't really do
a whole lot about on our own.

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It has to do with chemicals
in your brain and that some of

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those contribute to depression.

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The next is genetics.

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Similar to physical health
problems, mental health problems

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run in families as well.

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It's.

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If you're predisposed to breast
cancer in your family, you can

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be predisposed to depression.

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Things run in families.

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Personality, so people who are
generally more pessimistic and negative

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tend to experience higher levels of
depression, as well as people with

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high levels of perfectionism and
sensitivity to rejection or critique.

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Environmental factors.

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This can be things like living in an
unsafe neighborhood, exposure to violence,

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being neglected, abused, not having
access to food, clothing, shelter, water

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can increase your risk to depression.

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Those basic needs are really important.

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So the food, clothing, shelter, in order
to be able to do some of the higher level

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work on our emotions and processing some
of the more difficult things cognitively.

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Age.

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People 65 and over are at a higher
risk of experiencing depression.

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Chronic medical conditions.

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Depression might not be a symptom
itself of the medical condition,

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but you're experiencing depression
because that medical condition

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limits your mobility and you can't do
anything like you used to do anymore.

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I see quite a few people who come in
for more specifically back injuries

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that happened 15, 20 years ago and
they've just never been able to get

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back to that level of functioning.

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That has caused depression
for a pretty long time.

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Being a sexual minority, so anyone in the
lgbtq plus community is more susceptible

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to depression based on discrimination.

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Substance use.

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Using any kind of substance
habitually and excessively leads

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to depression and vice versa.

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Sometimes people start using substances
because they're depressed, anxious,

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have another underlying mental
illness, and other times people start

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using and then they become depressed.

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They interchange with each other
in terms of causing depression

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or being the result of.

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Low SES that goes in with the
food, clothing, shelter, housing.

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If you're having difficulty affording
to provide basic needs for yourself.

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That leads to greater stress,
financial stress, that's one of

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the big hotspots for depression.

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That's a big one.

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Little or no social supports.

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Having no or few social supports
impacts men and women equally.

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However, stay at home moms with small
children are the most susceptible to this.

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They are the ones most likely to
experience depression because they feel

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isolated and alone compared to women with
children who work and have a supportive

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network at their, places of employment.

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Ways to help yourself.

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Some of these you've probably seen
before, but they're still tried and true.

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Getting exercise.

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This doesn't have to be hitting
the weights and doing 30

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squats and then running a mile
and you doing jumping jacks.

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It can honestly be as simple
as walking around your house to

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make sure you get extra steps in.

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I don't know about any of
you, but I have a Fitbit and I

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really like to track my steps.

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So at night when I'm watching tv, I
just pace around my house listening

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to the TV so I can get some light
movement in while I'm also watching tv.

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It doesn't have to be
anything really rigorous.

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If you can do more rigorous activity.

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Fantastic.

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Good for you.

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I recommend you do it.

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If you can't, fantastic, don't
do something that you can do.

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Whatever works for you
is what's gonna be best.

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Establishing healthy sleeping habits.

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This one, I think when the pandemic
hit and people lost their jobs or

00:27:15.070 --> 00:27:18.100
the whole world was in a snow globe
and it just got shaken really hard

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and nobody knew what to do anymore.

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People really struggled with this one.

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It's important that we still go to bed
and wake up at the same times every day.

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It helps keep your body on a biological
rhythm, which naturally helps produce

00:27:35.035 --> 00:27:38.425
melatonin, which is the hormone
that helps you fall asleep at night.

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The more you can keep yourself on
a routine with sleep, the better.

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The next is eating more
healthfully and mindfully.

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Easier said than done when you're
at home and your refrigerator

00:27:53.410 --> 00:27:54.700
full of goodies is right there.

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But if you can try to put more
healthy things in your fridge rather

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than, I don't know about anyone
else, but my guilty pleasure is

00:28:03.195 --> 00:28:04.605
double stuffed chocolate Oreos.

00:28:05.215 --> 00:28:09.835
So I don't keep those around anymore
because it took about three weeks

00:28:09.835 --> 00:28:14.065
of pandemic eating for me to realize
that's not maybe the best thing to do.

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Now I keep fresh fruit around.

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But you can make small changes that can
really have a big impact on your health.

00:28:19.825 --> 00:28:26.015
Just eating more apples or plums, or
nectarines or whatever fruit is in season

00:28:26.545 --> 00:28:31.065
can have a big impact on your physical
health and your overall wellbeing.

00:28:31.945 --> 00:28:32.935
Then eating more mindfully.

00:28:32.935 --> 00:28:38.195
That means not rushing through your meal,
closing your eyes and savoring each bite

00:28:38.255 --> 00:28:42.190
can bring you some greater satisfaction
out of the things you're eating and

00:28:42.190 --> 00:28:46.150
help you to not overeat if that's one of
the symptoms maybe you're experiencing.

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Strengthening your social support system.

00:28:49.675 --> 00:28:51.805
That one is really tricky right now.

00:28:52.015 --> 00:28:53.665
You have to get creative with it.

00:28:53.715 --> 00:28:57.475
That can be joining a virtual group.

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I know Jefferson Center has some wellness
classes that are being done virtually.

00:29:02.695 --> 00:29:05.755
I know there are lots of other places
around town that have moved their stuff

00:29:05.755 --> 00:29:07.825
online because we can't meet in person.

00:29:08.235 --> 00:29:13.665
Even though it's not the same as being
in person it's better than nothing.

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Because not having any social
interaction, regardless of the method

00:29:20.295 --> 00:29:24.765
is more detrimental than having some
interaction, even if it's done by Zoom.

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What I would recommend doing is
setting up a weekly hangout with a

00:29:29.825 --> 00:29:33.545
friend or a group of friends and treat
it like an important appointment.

00:29:34.520 --> 00:29:35.660
It's something you can't miss.

00:29:35.660 --> 00:29:39.470
It's something you have to do because
it's what's really good for you.

00:29:40.040 --> 00:29:44.660
One of the things a couple coworkers and
I started doing after we stopped being

00:29:44.660 --> 00:29:49.010
able to see each other at work is every
other Thursday we have a three hour zoom

00:29:49.010 --> 00:29:53.240
meeting where we watch House Hunters
International on HGTV and make fun of it.

00:29:53.540 --> 00:29:56.810
And that's what the three of us like
to do because we just miss each other

00:29:57.080 --> 00:30:00.770
and it's, we don't get to see anyone
else except our spouses and our pets.

00:30:01.110 --> 00:30:04.230
It's a great way for us to still
connect on something as mundane as a

00:30:04.575 --> 00:30:08.475
television show and still feel connected
without having to be in person.

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That's what one of the things
I figured out for myself.

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Maybe that's something that you or your
children or teenagers could figure out.

00:30:15.765 --> 00:30:19.005
It's just important to have
that consistent connection

00:30:19.425 --> 00:30:21.315
regardless of how you do it.

00:30:21.775 --> 00:30:25.735
Chat rooms have become a thing again for
the same reason that people are looking

00:30:25.735 --> 00:30:29.825
to connect with people who are stuck at
home and you just want to talk to someone.

00:30:29.825 --> 00:30:30.995
It doesn't even matter about what.

00:30:31.755 --> 00:30:35.415
There's lots of options out there you
just have to get a little creative

00:30:36.165 --> 00:30:38.055
and set realistic goals for yourself.

00:30:38.105 --> 00:30:41.765
It would be awesome if you were
like, I'm gonna do those first four

00:30:41.765 --> 00:30:43.085
things that Melissa talked about.

00:30:43.085 --> 00:30:45.395
I'm gonna do them every day
and my life's gonna be amazing.

00:30:46.340 --> 00:30:50.510
The reality is if you make too
many changes at once, you're

00:30:50.510 --> 00:30:51.860
not going to keep up with them.

00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:54.320
So set a realistic goal for yourself.

00:30:54.410 --> 00:30:59.210
Pick one of the things that I go
over today and make a commitment to

00:30:59.210 --> 00:31:04.100
integrating that into your life maybe
once a day, depending on what it

00:31:04.100 --> 00:31:05.990
is, or once a week or once a month.

00:31:06.740 --> 00:31:08.640
But set a goal that you can achieve.

00:31:09.180 --> 00:31:12.630
You don't want to set yourself up
for failure by setting the goal of

00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.920
doing all four of those things every
day for the next month, because then

00:31:16.995 --> 00:31:20.375
you're most likely not gonna meet
those, and then you're gonna feel worse

00:31:20.375 --> 00:31:22.025
than you did before you got started.

00:31:22.275 --> 00:31:25.245
It's important to make sure
your goals are realistic,

00:31:25.375 --> 00:31:27.025
manageable and not overwhelming.

00:31:27.445 --> 00:31:27.865
Reading.

00:31:28.165 --> 00:31:31.345
This is one that people have gotten
back into more and more as well.

00:31:31.395 --> 00:31:34.965
Reading something funny if you're
feeling depressed might be helpful.

00:31:34.995 --> 00:31:36.315
Reading satire.

00:31:36.715 --> 00:31:37.825
I don't know about any of you.

00:31:37.825 --> 00:31:42.205
I love the website, the Onion, and
there's satire articles, fiction,

00:31:42.215 --> 00:31:47.325
and nonfiction or you can't tell
the difference, but I like humor's

00:31:47.325 --> 00:31:48.885
one that I use for myself as well.

00:31:49.375 --> 00:31:51.625
I'll just go ahead and jump to
humor since that's already on there.

00:31:52.495 --> 00:31:56.305
There's been some recent research
that was published in February that

00:31:56.305 --> 00:32:04.195
did some research on how depression
means impact people with depression.

00:32:04.245 --> 00:32:05.565
It can be a dark humor.

00:32:06.320 --> 00:32:11.025
A lot of people think depression humor is
dark and not funny, and we shouldn't laugh

00:32:11.025 --> 00:32:14.685
about that, but people with depression
actually rated those memes really highly

00:32:14.685 --> 00:32:18.915
and reported that they felt a greater
sense of connection to other people by

00:32:18.915 --> 00:32:21.805
seeing memes poking fun of depression.

00:32:22.145 --> 00:32:25.665
One of the ones I saw that I
laughed at when I was creating this

00:32:25.665 --> 00:32:30.565
presentation was: I don't think I
struggle with depression anymore.

00:32:31.045 --> 00:32:32.695
I'm really good at depression.

00:32:32.755 --> 00:32:34.105
I've got that thing down.

00:32:34.455 --> 00:32:37.915
I thought it was funny because
you're making fun of something very

00:32:37.915 --> 00:32:42.355
serious, but we often talk about
cognitive reframes in counseling and

00:32:42.355 --> 00:32:43.915
that to me was a positive reframe.

00:32:43.980 --> 00:32:47.700
You're really good at depression
instead of using that as a negative

00:32:47.730 --> 00:32:49.590
kind of characterization of yourself.

00:32:50.050 --> 00:32:53.550
Some of that darker humor for people
with depression actually is showing to

00:32:53.550 --> 00:32:58.910
be positive for people with depression
because it can help shift the way

00:32:58.910 --> 00:33:01.200
you view what you're dealing with.

00:33:02.050 --> 00:33:07.240
Another one I saw was a grumpy
cat, and it says, I'm not angry

00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:11.690
I'm just happy challenged.

00:33:11.930 --> 00:33:16.040
Which I thought was another kind of funny
and cute way to reframe having depression.

00:33:16.040 --> 00:33:18.950
Some of that type of humor can
be really beneficial to people

00:33:19.040 --> 00:33:20.180
suffering with depression.

00:33:20.690 --> 00:33:26.090
Journaling is another really helpful
skill or tool to use and not typing.

00:33:26.450 --> 00:33:27.170
Handwriting.

00:33:27.170 --> 00:33:29.540
It has to be a handwritten journal entry.

00:33:30.060 --> 00:33:33.630
The reason for that is when you
physically hand write something, one,

00:33:33.630 --> 00:33:38.715
it helps you with memory, two, it
forces you to physiologically slow

00:33:38.715 --> 00:33:43.155
down your heart rate because you are
slowing down to think things through.

00:33:43.155 --> 00:33:44.655
It slows down your mind.

00:33:44.655 --> 00:33:46.725
So if you're having
racing anxious thoughts.

00:33:46.995 --> 00:33:48.315
It helps calm down.

00:33:48.685 --> 00:33:52.075
It provides not just a place for
you to get out what's happening in

00:33:52.075 --> 00:33:56.275
your head, but it also provides a
physiological reduction in stress.

00:33:56.615 --> 00:33:58.025
But it has to be handwriting.

00:33:58.025 --> 00:33:59.555
Typing, you can go too fast.

00:33:59.555 --> 00:34:01.230
I can type fast enough to
keep up with my thoughts.

00:34:02.150 --> 00:34:03.200
That's not relaxing.

00:34:04.140 --> 00:34:07.260
It doesn't always have to be a journal
entry in the sense of, dear your

00:34:07.260 --> 00:34:10.590
diary today is day 97 of quarantine.

00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:12.180
You can make it fun.

00:34:12.310 --> 00:34:17.350
One of the things I like to do with
kids in therapy is write fictional

00:34:17.350 --> 00:34:24.263
stories about our lives . So instead
of writing about their teenage self

00:34:24.263 --> 00:34:27.863
with anxiety, they create another
character who might have anxiety and

00:34:27.863 --> 00:34:29.593
they write stories about that character.

00:34:29.593 --> 00:34:33.967
But it's also drawing from experiences
that they've experienced in their life.

00:34:34.027 --> 00:34:36.274
It's a way Of still processing
your feelings without

00:34:36.274 --> 00:34:39.574
necessarily being so intrusive.

00:34:39.779 --> 00:34:43.444
It's a way to get things out
without necessarily having to

00:34:43.444 --> 00:34:44.704
call yourself out on things.

00:34:45.444 --> 00:34:47.304
Creating structure and
routine for yourself.

00:34:48.234 --> 00:34:49.764
Humans are creatures of habit.

00:34:50.304 --> 00:34:54.774
We love consistency and routine, even if
we want to pretend that we are fun and

00:34:54.774 --> 00:34:59.994
spontaneous, which we can sometimes be,
but our natural state of being thrives

00:35:00.084 --> 00:35:02.884
off consistency and structure and routine.

00:35:03.814 --> 00:35:08.564
What's important right now, given the
snow globe shakeup that's happened

00:35:09.164 --> 00:35:10.994
is creating that for yourself.

00:35:11.864 --> 00:35:15.584
It doesn't have to be
super important tasks.

00:35:15.614 --> 00:35:20.064
You can create a structure for
yourself that's, I'm gonna do one

00:35:20.064 --> 00:35:23.934
load of laundry, or I'm gonna go
for a walk, or I'm gonna make dinner

00:35:23.934 --> 00:35:28.284
Monday, Wednesday, Friday, instead of
reaching for the bag of potato chips.

00:35:29.589 --> 00:35:35.109
Creating some semblance of structure and
routine gives yourself a sense of purpose.

00:35:35.629 --> 00:35:39.649
For people struggling with depression, who
often feel they don't have a purpose or

00:35:39.649 --> 00:35:43.069
they feel lost, this is really important.

00:35:43.949 --> 00:35:46.499
This is also one of those things that
even if you're not struggling with

00:35:46.499 --> 00:35:49.739
depression right now, you're gonna
still benefit from having a structured

00:35:50.009 --> 00:35:54.974
routine for yourself, for your children,
for anyone else coming into contact

00:35:54.974 --> 00:35:56.084
with you or living in your home.

00:35:56.774 --> 00:36:00.614
We as humans love structure,
routine and consistency.

00:36:01.974 --> 00:36:04.194
The last two, counseling and medications.

00:36:04.704 --> 00:36:06.294
When do you get counseling?

00:36:06.354 --> 00:36:07.554
When do you seek counseling?

00:36:08.334 --> 00:36:13.644
My rule of thumb is that everyone should
go to counseling for every reason, because

00:36:13.644 --> 00:36:15.384
I totally believe in its effectiveness.

00:36:15.924 --> 00:36:19.854
But if you're like never been to therapy
before, or you're not sure what it's

00:36:19.854 --> 00:36:25.584
gonna be like, but some of those symptoms
I talked about seem really familiar.

00:36:26.364 --> 00:36:28.734
I would come in and
just get an evaluation.

00:36:28.794 --> 00:36:31.314
You don't have to engage in therapy.

00:36:31.584 --> 00:36:35.274
You can make an appointment with an
intake clinician, come in, talk about

00:36:35.274 --> 00:36:40.164
what's going on, get some guidance,
get some coping skills and some tips,

00:36:40.164 --> 00:36:42.084
and choose to not come to counseling.

00:36:43.764 --> 00:36:47.844
I think if you're questioning whether
or not you should get counseling, that's

00:36:47.874 --> 00:36:51.504
generally a sign that you should at
least come in to talk to someone briefly.

00:36:52.194 --> 00:36:57.714
You might not need reoccurring sessions,
but oftentimes people just feel good

00:36:57.714 --> 00:37:02.699
coming into the intake and finally
verbalizing all the things they've

00:37:02.699 --> 00:37:04.299
been feeling and maybe holding in.

00:37:05.084 --> 00:37:08.324
If you're thinking about
counseling, come into counseling.

00:37:09.284 --> 00:37:14.114
The biggest issues too are if you have
any kind of suicidal ideation, come in.

00:37:14.654 --> 00:37:15.914
Come in and talk to someone.

00:37:16.434 --> 00:37:22.224
If you're noticing your sleep is all of
a sudden really heltor skeletor come in.

00:37:22.224 --> 00:37:27.894
Those are the biggest kind of symptoms
from that first page that if not addressed

00:37:27.894 --> 00:37:29.729
in some way can be life threatening.

00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:34.629
Without sleep, a lot of our other
kind of functions go out the window,

00:37:34.629 --> 00:37:37.479
and that just increases our chance
for all those other symptoms.

00:37:37.479 --> 00:37:40.929
The tearyness, the loss of interest,
the isolation, the withdrawing.

00:37:41.469 --> 00:37:44.109
Talk to someone if you're
experiencing either of those as well.

00:37:45.154 --> 00:37:45.874
Medications.

00:37:45.884 --> 00:37:48.494
Medications aren't the
answer for everyone.

00:37:49.004 --> 00:37:52.814
Research does show that the best
outcome for people suffering

00:37:52.814 --> 00:37:56.444
from depression is counseling in
conjunction with medication management.

00:37:56.784 --> 00:37:59.154
I've seen people do well
with just one or the other.

00:38:00.204 --> 00:38:01.864
Meds are always there if you want them.

00:38:02.574 --> 00:38:04.014
You also don't have to take them.

00:38:05.304 --> 00:38:05.814
Okay.

00:38:05.864 --> 00:38:07.784
What can you do to help someone else.

00:38:08.624 --> 00:38:13.064
If you're concerned that somebody you
care about is suffering from depression

00:38:13.114 --> 00:38:16.324
or you're noticing some of those
symptoms we went over on the first page.

00:38:17.014 --> 00:38:20.044
You want to set a time to talk
to them and you want to make sure

00:38:20.044 --> 00:38:21.244
you don't have any distractions.

00:38:21.254 --> 00:38:24.904
Put the phone away, turn it
off, turn off the tv, put those

00:38:24.904 --> 00:38:26.254
small kids down for a nap.

00:38:26.254 --> 00:38:30.124
If you're talking to a teenager
or your spouse set aside

00:38:30.124 --> 00:38:31.804
some one-on-one quality time.

00:38:32.869 --> 00:38:36.539
The second, let them talk as
little or as much as they want to.

00:38:37.309 --> 00:38:41.059
Forcing people to talk about things
they're not ready to talk about,

00:38:41.449 --> 00:38:43.399
only shuts them down further.

00:38:43.739 --> 00:38:46.649
You're there to just be a support
and say, Hey, I'm noticing

00:38:46.649 --> 00:38:47.969
this is happening for you.

00:38:48.479 --> 00:38:48.854
Talk to me.

00:38:50.099 --> 00:38:54.719
They might not at that time, but it
could very well be the next time they

00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:59.244
see they want to say something or they
think about it and yeah, I should tell

00:38:59.304 --> 00:39:00.864
that person what's happening for me.

00:39:02.274 --> 00:39:05.424
Don't diagnose, can't
stress this one enough.

00:39:05.814 --> 00:39:10.224
I'm an intake clinician at Jefferson
Center, so my job is to provide an initial

00:39:10.224 --> 00:39:14.784
diagnosis and there's a joke we have
about how often we undiagnosed people with

00:39:14.784 --> 00:39:16.014
something they're convinced they have.

00:39:17.094 --> 00:39:19.794
So don't diagnose someone, leave it to us.

00:39:20.294 --> 00:39:23.744
Because people often wear
those diagnoses like badges.

00:39:24.044 --> 00:39:28.399
I've got depression, and that might
not be what it is, and they start to

00:39:28.399 --> 00:39:31.549
really strongly identify with it, and
it can be really detrimental to their

00:39:31.549 --> 00:39:33.379
self-esteem and sense of self-worth.

00:39:34.129 --> 00:39:35.089
Don't diagnose.

00:39:35.449 --> 00:39:36.739
Just listen carefully.

00:39:37.189 --> 00:39:38.899
Listen thoughtfully.

00:39:39.664 --> 00:39:41.104
Use open-ended questions.

00:39:41.474 --> 00:39:45.564
One of the things I learned to utilize
when I was in grad school and has proven

00:39:45.564 --> 00:39:48.714
to be really, really helpful throughout
my professional career is I actually

00:39:48.774 --> 00:39:50.964
don't ask questions for the most part.

00:39:50.964 --> 00:39:52.554
I say, tell me about this.

00:39:52.794 --> 00:39:55.824
You mentioned the X, Y, Z.
Tell me about that more.

00:39:56.064 --> 00:39:58.734
Tell me how that impacts
what's going on for you.

00:39:58.734 --> 00:40:00.894
Tell me how that's
changing things for you.

00:40:01.854 --> 00:40:07.449
I use more of a directive statement
to guide them instead of asking a

00:40:07.449 --> 00:40:12.759
yes or no question where they can
easily go, no, and that just shuts

00:40:12.759 --> 00:40:14.259
down that conversation right away.

00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:19.619
Using open-ended questions or directive
open-ended statements is really

00:40:19.619 --> 00:40:25.059
helpful in getting people to open
up without being forceful or pushy.

00:40:25.859 --> 00:40:26.699
Listen carefully.

00:40:26.749 --> 00:40:28.369
Validate what they're saying.

00:40:28.889 --> 00:40:30.239
Use reflective statements.

00:40:30.289 --> 00:40:32.569
I'm hearing you say this has
been really hard for you.

00:40:32.969 --> 00:40:34.409
That must have been terrible for you.

00:40:34.409 --> 00:40:36.029
I'm sorry you experienced that.

00:40:36.329 --> 00:40:37.109
How can I help?

00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:38.519
That kind of thing.

00:40:38.979 --> 00:40:41.349
Then offer to help in
seeking professional support.

00:40:41.439 --> 00:40:46.599
A lot of times what prevents
people from seeking help is fear.

00:40:47.269 --> 00:40:50.809
I can't tell you how many times I've asked
about suicidal ideation in my office and

00:40:50.809 --> 00:40:56.114
I can see the fear pass over my client's
face with you're gonna hospitalize me.

00:40:56.164 --> 00:41:01.174
Just having suicidal thoughts does not
mean you are going to be hospitalized.

00:41:01.644 --> 00:41:05.034
You can have passive suicidal
thoughts and not be hospitalized.

00:41:05.544 --> 00:41:08.784
There's a great misunderstanding about
that, but there's a lot of fear that

00:41:08.784 --> 00:41:11.994
keeps people from seeking professional
help when they need it because

00:41:11.994 --> 00:41:13.164
they're not sure what's gonna happen.

00:41:13.214 --> 00:41:14.564
Offer to come to the appointment.

00:41:15.134 --> 00:41:18.374
I have people all the time who
bring someone, and sometimes they

00:41:18.374 --> 00:41:21.734
come into the office and sometimes
they sit in the waiting room.

00:41:22.064 --> 00:41:26.079
It's up to the client, but whatever
the client chooses i'm gonna be okay

00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:29.799
with because what's important is that
they're here and they're getting help.

00:41:30.339 --> 00:41:32.139
So offer to seek help.

00:41:32.139 --> 00:41:33.219
You can come to the appointment.

00:41:33.219 --> 00:41:34.599
Help them make the appointment.

00:41:34.629 --> 00:41:35.679
That also happens.

00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.809
Friends will help other friends call.

00:41:38.139 --> 00:41:41.679
They'll sit there while they talk
to our navigation clinicians and

00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:42.849
get set up for an appointment.

00:41:43.399 --> 00:41:47.699
There's a lot of things you can do
to be a support for someone else.

00:41:49.139 --> 00:41:53.374
If things are really bad and the
person you're talking to or you

00:41:53.374 --> 00:41:58.384
yourself, are at a point where you
feel overwhelmed and you cannot handle

00:41:58.384 --> 00:42:00.004
what's happening or what you're feeling.

00:42:00.484 --> 00:42:05.364
You can walk in or call
our crisis line 24/7 365.

00:42:05.844 --> 00:42:10.494
I put our Jefferson Center managed
location addresses down there

00:42:10.494 --> 00:42:11.754
on the bottom of the screen.

00:42:12.294 --> 00:42:14.904
The staff there I work
with personally every day.

00:42:14.934 --> 00:42:16.254
They are phenomenal.

00:42:16.584 --> 00:42:18.834
They're wonderful crisis clinicians.

00:42:19.764 --> 00:42:22.554
A crisis doesn't have to mean
a life or death situation.

00:42:22.554 --> 00:42:26.304
A crisis is something that is just
uncomfortable and overwhelming for you

00:42:26.304 --> 00:42:27.954
or your family member or your friend.

00:42:28.524 --> 00:42:32.484
We're not gonna turn you away and say,
sorry, that's not really a crisis.

00:42:32.514 --> 00:42:32.964
Okay?

00:42:33.374 --> 00:42:39.584
If you are experiencing some kind of
meltdown or just an overwhelming sense of

00:42:39.584 --> 00:42:43.694
stress, please come in and talk to someone
and we'll get you set up and get you where

00:42:43.694 --> 00:42:47.534
you need to go within Jefferson Center
so that you can get the help you need.

00:42:48.644 --> 00:42:55.814
One last statistic I want to give you
all before I sign off is that people

00:42:55.814 --> 00:43:01.754
on average wait 10 years before seeking
professional help for mental illnesses.

00:43:02.069 --> 00:43:07.979
10 years of their life is
spent struggling alone.

00:43:08.759 --> 00:43:11.849
That is a astounding number.

00:43:11.849 --> 00:43:18.239
I've seen that in research multiple
times, and this is why if you are

00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:22.019
even considering thinking about
counseling, come, don't wait 10 years.

00:43:22.049 --> 00:43:27.984
Don't let 10 years of your
life be taken over by something

00:43:27.984 --> 00:43:29.794
that we can treat and work on.

00:43:29.844 --> 00:43:33.084
On that note, that is the
end of my presentation.

00:43:33.174 --> 00:43:37.404
Please feel free to take note of my
email address if you have any questions

00:43:37.434 --> 00:43:39.834
that come up after we all sign off.

00:43:40.234 --> 00:43:42.664
I'm happy to answer them
at any point in time.

00:43:42.714 --> 00:43:45.084
I think now we're gonna answer
any questions that may have

00:43:45.084 --> 00:43:47.004
come in during the presentation.

00:43:48.579 --> 00:43:48.849
Julia: Yep.

00:43:48.849 --> 00:43:50.169
We sure are.

00:43:50.169 --> 00:43:51.159
Thank you, Melissa.

00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:52.869
That was a really great presentation.

00:43:52.869 --> 00:43:55.989
I know I found a lot of very
valuable information in it, and

00:43:55.989 --> 00:43:58.089
I'm sure others did as well.

00:43:58.339 --> 00:44:02.599
I do want to mention before we get to
the questions that if you are interested

00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:04.409
in just chatting with a clinician.

00:44:04.409 --> 00:44:10.659
If you have more questions that you want
to ask one-on-one or you're feeling a

00:44:10.659 --> 00:44:14.669
little bit off or depressed and you want
to talk to somebody individually just

00:44:14.669 --> 00:44:18.429
private message us and we will get you set
up with somebody right after this is over.

00:44:18.649 --> 00:44:20.749
Melissa, we did get a couple of questions.

00:44:20.749 --> 00:44:25.839
The first one is: I've been feeling
pretty listless the past couple of

00:44:25.839 --> 00:44:30.369
weeks, and I know that I should be doing
stuff like exercising or eating well,

00:44:30.579 --> 00:44:38.034
but I just can't get off the couch or
out of bed to do those things, even

00:44:38.034 --> 00:44:39.354
though I know they're good for me.

00:44:39.624 --> 00:44:41.274
How do I get over that hurdle?

00:44:42.114 --> 00:44:44.134
Melissa: That sounds pretty significant.

00:44:44.134 --> 00:44:47.434
If the motivation piece I'm hearing
a lot of people talk about lately

00:44:47.434 --> 00:44:50.284
and it is finding that motivation
to get off the couch and do what

00:44:50.284 --> 00:44:53.284
you need to do, even though you
know you need to do it, doing it's a

00:44:53.284 --> 00:44:55.084
different story is really difficult.

00:44:55.434 --> 00:44:57.924
I would really recommend making
an appointment and coming in and

00:44:57.924 --> 00:44:59.544
talking to someone about that.

00:45:00.064 --> 00:45:04.444
Because if it's to the point where
the motivation piece is so diminished

00:45:04.484 --> 00:45:05.864
that you're struggling that much.

00:45:06.444 --> 00:45:10.044
It sounds like you're walking more
towards the moderate type of depression.

00:45:10.354 --> 00:45:13.929
You might need a higher level of
care than just yourself right now.

00:45:14.389 --> 00:45:19.399
One thing that I do for myself and
for clients when that feeling is

00:45:19.399 --> 00:45:22.779
really overwhelming for me is I
set up a reward system for myself.

00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:25.819
Like the way you'd set up a
sticker chart for a child.

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If I get up and do this one thing, then I
can reward myself with this other thing.

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I hold myself accountable to not
getting my reward if I don't do it.

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That sometimes can help me overcome
some of that listlessness and clients

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as well with trying to provide
some form of motivation for you.

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At that point in time for me,
I'm highly motivated by Oreos.

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So for me, getting up and exercising
means I get to eat Oreos and I love Oreos.

00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:55.489
So finding something like that
for yourself where you can reward

00:45:55.489 --> 00:45:59.689
yourself for doing even just something
small is gonna help reinforce

00:45:59.899 --> 00:46:01.189
that behavior and that pattern.

00:46:01.189 --> 00:46:04.549
But I would also really recommend
coming in and talking to someone.

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Julia: That's a great idea.

00:46:06.934 --> 00:46:09.554
Figuring out what a good
reward would be for yourself.

00:46:09.654 --> 00:46:10.404
That might work.

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The next question we have is,
I am worried about my husband.

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He is just seemed kind of sad and
down recently, but every time I've

00:46:18.624 --> 00:46:22.734
asked him about it, all he does is
says he's fine and brush it off.

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I'm starting to get frustrated
and how can I help him?

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Melissa: That one's really hard with
spouses because they're adults, right?

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If it was a kid, you
could just bring them in.

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What I would do if I were in your
situation, what I would recommend

00:46:37.839 --> 00:46:39.829
is going along with a don't push it.

00:46:40.529 --> 00:46:43.079
Don't force him to talk about
something he's not ready to.

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What I would rather recommend
is you do is say: I'm noticing

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that you're doing this more.

00:46:49.609 --> 00:46:54.479
I'm noticing your more irritable
lately and just gently reflecting

00:46:54.509 --> 00:46:56.159
the behavior changes you're seeing.

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With your own frustration, what I
would recommend too is recognizing

00:47:02.459 --> 00:47:05.669
right now is a really stressful time
and doing some self-care for yourself.

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You're seeing somebody you love and you
care about struggle pretty significantly.

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I don't know if this is related
to he's lost his job recently

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or something like that.

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But you're noticing behavior
changes, so just making these

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casual, gentle observations of this
and saying: I just want you to feel

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better or I just want to help you.

00:47:26.424 --> 00:47:30.204
I don't want to push you to do something
you don't want to, but I am concerned

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and expressing that gently and in
a non-threatening, non-judgmental

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way, just at least opens that door.

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I think that can sometimes be the hardest
part for spouses or parents and clinicians

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at times, is you sometimes plant a seed.

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And it takes a while for that seedling
to sprout into something you can see or

00:47:53.724 --> 00:47:59.814
that is tangible and you have to have
faith in the process of offering that

00:47:59.814 --> 00:48:06.384
continual gentle support and trust that
at some point that seed will sprout

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and that they'll accept the help.

00:48:08.509 --> 00:48:10.009
You can't force him into therapy.

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For you, if it's getting to the
point where you're really aggravated

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and upset and getting more and
more and more frustrated in your

00:48:16.359 --> 00:48:18.369
own kind of stress is rising.

00:48:18.749 --> 00:48:22.169
I do intakes for spouses all the
time for this reason, who come in

00:48:22.169 --> 00:48:24.299
and say, my partner won't get help.

00:48:25.019 --> 00:48:29.819
I need to work on how I'm reacting to this
because it's starting to stress me out.

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So that's also an option for you.

00:48:32.699 --> 00:48:35.669
But I would continue to just be
the kind, loving, supportive spouse

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that you are and plant that seed and
keep watering it with those gentle

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statements and don't force it.

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Julia: Great.

00:48:44.194 --> 00:48:47.514
Yeah, that's a really interesting
if you're getting aggravated about

00:48:47.514 --> 00:48:50.764
it to go and see someone yourself,
to talk to somebody about it.

00:48:50.814 --> 00:48:51.894
That's really interesting.

00:48:51.924 --> 00:48:53.484
We do one more question.

00:48:53.734 --> 00:49:00.064
This one says, so you've talked
specifically about feeling guilty or

00:49:00.064 --> 00:49:04.834
bad about people you know, that might
be having a hard time, but I've been

00:49:04.834 --> 00:49:10.054
feeling really sad about everything
that's happening in the world.

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Whenever I go on social media,
I see all of the things that are

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happening and I just feel very
helpless and out of control.

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What can I do to help with those feelings?

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Melissa: So you're experiencing
a form of compassion fatigue.

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That was actually one of the things
I actually meant to touch on,

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so I'm glad you brought that up.

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When you're really empathic, everything
in the world right now, it's like you

00:49:33.054 --> 00:49:37.334
just taking it all on and holding it all
on your shoulders, and there's so much

00:49:37.334 --> 00:49:40.664
injustice in the world and there's so much
frustration and so much to be angry about.

00:49:41.234 --> 00:49:44.714
But the social media piece
brings up a really good point.

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Get off social media.

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I cannot stress that enough.

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What I would recommend doing is
not using social media and instead

00:49:53.389 --> 00:49:57.949
picking a few websites like news
sites like New York Times, or I

00:49:57.949 --> 00:49:59.479
always recommend unbiased news sites.

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You can pick whichever ones you want,
but picking some news sites that you

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check in once or twice a day to get
the news and not subject yourself

00:50:09.339 --> 00:50:15.219
to the sometimes pretty hateful,
stressful world of social media and

00:50:15.219 --> 00:50:17.169
the opinionated world of social media.

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I find the same thing
when I log off Facebook.

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I feel like my nerves are shot.

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I'm angry, I'm sad, I'm frustrated, and
what I have found works for myself and

00:50:27.969 --> 00:50:32.479
what a lot of my other therapist friends
are doing, who are experiencing a lot of

00:50:32.479 --> 00:50:37.549
the same things that you just described,
is we limit our time on social media for

00:50:37.549 --> 00:50:42.699
that reason, and we choose to get our
information straight from the news source.

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I don't want to hear
anybody else's opinions.

00:50:44.659 --> 00:50:48.129
I don't want to see anybody
else's response to anything

00:50:48.369 --> 00:50:49.869
because that stresses me out.

00:50:50.269 --> 00:50:53.959
It's hard to sometimes sort through
all that noise on social media.

00:50:53.969 --> 00:51:00.004
It's such toxic thought patterns just
all over the place and it weighs on you.

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It's heavy.

00:51:01.364 --> 00:51:05.474
The best recommendation I have for you
is to delete it from your phone and only

00:51:05.474 --> 00:51:10.294
check it maybe on a computer if you have
that, or move it to the fourth page of the

00:51:10.294 --> 00:51:14.884
apps you have on your phone so that it's
not right there in your face every day.

00:51:14.884 --> 00:51:17.074
You're not just habitually checking it.

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A social media detox is very helpful.

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I think everyone should do them.

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If I could get rid of one thing in the
world, it would probably be social media.

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So my recommendation would be to either
limit your time, take a break from it,

00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:37.964
and get your news from different sources
for the time beings just to help give

00:51:37.964 --> 00:51:41.894
your emotions a break because we're
all in this trauma response right now.

00:51:41.894 --> 00:51:45.734
I think with everything that's happening,
we're in a communal trauma and it's

00:51:45.734 --> 00:51:51.514
hard to get back to baseline when we're
constantly seeing and being fed new images

00:51:51.514 --> 00:51:53.659
of things happening all over the world.

00:51:53.659 --> 00:51:58.329
You don't get a chance to really process
them and deescalate when you're constantly

00:51:58.329 --> 00:52:00.309
on social media being re-exposed to them.

00:52:00.919 --> 00:52:04.159
A social media diet is
my recommendation to you.

00:52:05.999 --> 00:52:08.284
Julia: That sounds like
a good recommendation.

00:52:08.394 --> 00:52:10.014
That's all the time we've got today.

00:52:10.014 --> 00:52:14.164
Melissa, thank you so much
for your presentation and for

00:52:14.164 --> 00:52:16.454
everyone who has attended today.

00:52:16.644 --> 00:52:19.134
No matter what you're facing
in life, like if you're feeling

00:52:19.134 --> 00:52:23.154
overwhelmed or worried or stressed,
Jefferson Center is here for you.

00:52:23.254 --> 00:52:27.144
We are open, we are accepting new
clients and accessing care is easier

00:52:27.144 --> 00:52:29.094
than ever with virtual appointments.

00:52:29.334 --> 00:52:34.134
You can visit our website at jcmh.org or
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00:52:34.134 --> 00:52:41.244
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00:52:41.634 --> 00:52:43.554
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